From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Nov 20 2004 - 21:42:22 GMT
Hi Chin,
> Hi all. I hate to interrupt this excellent discussion, but maybe you could
> explain what this means for me.
>
> From "ZEN;"
>
> <Snip>
> What is essential to understand at this point is that until now there was
> no such thing as mind and matter, subject and object, form and substance.
> Those divisions are just dialectical inventions that came later. The
> modern mind sometimes tends to balk at the thought of these dichotomies
> being inventions and says, "Well, the divisions were there for the Greeks
> to discover," and you have to say, "Where were they? Point to them!" And
> the modern mind gets a little confused and wonders what this is all about
> anyway, and still believes the divisions were there.
>
> But they weren't, as Phaedrus said. They are just ghosts, immortal gods of
> the modern mythos which appear to us to be real because we are in that
> mythos. But in reality they are just as much an artistic creation as the
> anthropomorphic Gods they replaced. </Snip>
>
> Thanks for any consideration.
I think Pirsig simply means the map is not the territory and that you can
make up (invent) all kinds of maps to represent the same territory. The
subject-object, mind-matter, form-substance maps have proven of value in
guiding mankind's way through life's hills and valleys. Otherwise, we
wouldn't be here. That said, Pirsig believes the DQ-SQ map is better
because it's covers more territory.
Platt
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