Re: MD Empiricism

From: PhaedrusWolf@aol.com
Date: Sat Nov 20 2004 - 20:15:36 GMT

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    In a message dated 11/20/04 2:00:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    jse885@earthlink.net writes:

    In ZAMM, after realizing that Quality is neither subjective nor objective,
    he goes on to realize that Quality produces both subject and object. Of
    course, we can understand the cut in other ways, notably as DQ/SQ. But
    unless it cuts in some way or other, it is meaningless.

    Hi all. I hate to interrupt this excellent discussion, but maybe you could
    explain what this means for me.
     
    From "ZEN;"
     
    <Snip>
    What is essential to understand at this point is that until now there was no
    such thing as mind and matter, subject and object, form and substance. Those
    divisions are just dialectical inventions that came later. The modern mind
    sometimes tends to balk at the thought of these dichotomies being inventions
    and says, "Well, the divisions were there for the Greeks to discover," and you
    have to say, "Where were they? Point to them!" And the modern mind gets a
    little confused and wonders what this is all about anyway, and still believes
    the divisions were there.
     
    But they weren't, as Phaedrus said. They are just ghosts, immortal gods of
    the modern mythos which appear to us to be real because we are in that mythos.
    But in reality they are just as much an artistic creation as the
    anthropomorphic Gods they replaced.
    </Snip>
     
    Thanks for any consideration.
     
    Chin

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