From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 26 2003 - 03:11:16 GMT
Thanks for the kind words Platt.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: MD Pirsig an artist - MoQ & love
> Hi Rick:
>
> I fully agree with your take on love in the MoQ. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Platt
>
> > RICK
> > I do. My thesis is this: Love is a species of value.
> >
> > PIRSIG
> > In the [MoQ] "causation" is a metaphysical term that can be replaced by
> > "value." To say that "A *causes* B" or to say that "B *values*
> > precondition A" is to say the same thing [LILA ch 8 p119].
> >
> > RICK
> > So what would be the difference between saying "B *values*
precondition
> > A" and "B *loves* precondition A"? To me it sounds though the
difference
> > is one of intensity. Maybe "love" is the label applied to the
> > relationships with the patterns we value most intensely.
> > We hear people speak of love for life and health, friends and
family,
> > art and music... Some people love their jobs, some people love
philosophy.
> > We love our mates in dozens of ways. There are so many things we speak
of
> > loving, but I think that in almost all the meanings of the word "love"
the
> > bottom line, in MoQ terms, is revealed to be the intensity of the value
> > being fulfilled (this would also explain the often noted relationship of
> > "love" and the equally intensive "hate").
> > By this explanation of Love, we really can see Love at work in all
> > levels of the MoQ. Since all patterns at all levels value things, they
can
> > love as well.
>
>
>
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