Re: MD Pirsig an artist - MoQ & love

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Jan 25 2003 - 12:19:13 GMT

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    Hi Rick:

    I fully agree with your take on love in the MoQ. Thanks for sharing.

    Platt

    > RICK
    > I do. My thesis is this: Love is a species of value.
    >
    > PIRSIG
    > In the [MoQ] "causation" is a metaphysical term that can be replaced by
    > "value." To say that "A *causes* B" or to say that "B *values*
    > precondition A" is to say the same thing [LILA ch 8 p119].
    >
    > RICK
    > So what would be the difference between saying "B *values* precondition
    > A" and "B *loves* precondition A"? To me it sounds though the difference
    > is one of intensity. Maybe "love" is the label applied to the
    > relationships with the patterns we value most intensely.
    > We hear people speak of love for life and health, friends and family,
    > art and music... Some people love their jobs, some people love philosophy.
    > We love our mates in dozens of ways. There are so many things we speak of
    > loving, but I think that in almost all the meanings of the word "love" the
    > bottom line, in MoQ terms, is revealed to be the intensity of the value
    > being fulfilled (this would also explain the often noted relationship of
    > "love" and the equally intensive "hate").
    > By this explanation of Love, we really can see Love at work in all
    > levels of the MoQ. Since all patterns at all levels value things, they can
    > love as well.

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