Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Wed Jan 05 2005 - 11:36:10 GMT

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    Marsha,

    I think as Paul's response indicated, we're really just stmbling over the
    semantics of the word "thing".

    To me a "thing" is quite literally any thing of any kind in any real,
    imagined or unimagined context.
    Everything is a thing to me, by natural language dictionary usage of the
    word.
    I just have many types of thing in my world.

    To others they reserve special meaning for the word.

    As long as we're agreeing on substance I personally don't see such points
    worth arguing about.

    Ian
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "MarshaV" <marshalz@i-2000.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:53 PM
    Subject: RE: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

    >
    > Ian and Paul,
    >
    > The way I heard it was that things (like tables) are just extremely slow
    > processes. So slow that we don't notice the changes, but we experience
    > what seems like a solid object to our senses. But regardless, since
    > everything is changing, what is a thing or object if not a Static Quality
    > process? Am I getting things and objects mixed up, or are they the same?
    >
    > Marsha
    >
    > At 03:34 PM 1/4/2005 +0000, you wrote:
    > >Hi Ian
    > >
    > >Paul asks
    > >"Are there non-SOMist things-in-themselves? What could they possibly
    > >be?"
    > >
    > >Marsha answered that already - "Processes"
    > >
    > >Paul:
    > >Processes aren't things though are they? You'll say semantics but what's
    > >the point of philosophy if we happily dismiss confusion of our basic
    > >terms as 'semantics'?
    >
    >
    >
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