Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Fri Jan 14 2005 - 19:53:20 GMT

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    Hello Ian, Platt, DMB -- and a hearty welcome to Matt Kundert!

    > Ian - is mysticism just that which is not yet explained ?
    > Platt - Yes
    > DMB - No

    At the risk of what will be considered a "self-serving" message, let me try
    to answer your question using several paragraphs selected from my own
    thesis. As you probably know, my principal complaint with the MOQ is that,
    except for some oblique references to Zen mysticism, it doesn't provide an
    epistemology for its multi-level Quality concept. (Matt has also noted this
    inadequacy, and a recent reading of McWatt's PhD thesis on Pirsig's
    metaphysics supports my conclusion.) The problem is compounded by the fact
    that Oriental Mysticism is "all over the place" metaphysically (e.g., Chin's
    eloquent ramblings) and lacks an empirical framework that is comprehensible
    to the Western mentality.

    If you'll carefully digest these five paragraphs, I think you may arrive at
    a better understanding of the logic behind the mysical approach, and why it
    can't be dismissed in any philosophy that purports to resolve the SOM
    (duality) issue.

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    "Just what is Essentialism?

    "In its broadest sense, Essentialism is any philosophy that acknowledges the
    primacy of Essence. Many view it as an idealistic belief system with roots
    that are traceable to the objective idealism of the early Greeks. Others,
    myself included, see it as the inevitable reaction to scientific materialism
    which in its methodological denial of subjective reality has virtually
    rejected the possibility of an immanent Essence. To the scientist
    everything is an "other" whose attributes are defined and measured in terms
    of laws constructed by the human intellect-a *not* other. But because
    Essentialism is a conceptual worldview that is not dependent on objective
    facts and measurements, it is not limited to the scientific way of looking
    at things. As the Eastern mystics have known for many centuries, reality is
    more than what the rational mind can formulate differentially from its
    empirical observations of "otherness". Essentialism puts this wisdom into a
    logical framework or synthesis that is approachable (arguably for the first
    time) by the Western mind. The Essentialist's perspective is not trapped by
    self/other dualism; it reaches beyond otherness for the Value of undivided
    Essence-the ineffable Oneness of Eastern Philosophy.

    "Although the Greek philosophers believed that the true nature of the
    universe was perfect, they were astute enough to attribute the observed
    imperfections to man's limited perception. For Plato, this meant that there
    had to be two different realities: the "essential" and the "perceived".
    Plato's dialectical protégé Aristotle [384-322 B.C.] applied the term
    "essence" to the one common characteristic that all things belonging to a
    particular category have in common and without which they could not be
    members of that category; hence, the idea of rationality as the essence of
    man. This notion carried over into all facets of reality, including species
    of living creatures. But it was the Egyptian-born philosopher Plotinus
    [270-204 B.C.] who brought Greek Idealism to the Roman Empire as
    Neo-Platonism, and with it the concept that all existents emanate from a
    "subjective essence" and that the mind plays an active role in shaping or
    ordering the objects of its perception rather than passively receiving the
    data of sensory experience. With the Empire's fall to the Goths in A.D. 476
    and the spread of Christianity in the Western World, Aristotle's empirical
    view of essence was left unchallenged to dominate philosophical thought
    throughout the Middle Ages.

    "We've observed that objects come into existence by assuming perceptible
    qualities, that is, by their being separated or differentiated from a
    primary source. In the tradition of Occam's razor, as there is no reason to
    presuppose an antecedent, I identify the a priori source as Essence and
    attribute it directly to the Absolute Whole which, by the traditional
    religio-philosophical parameters, is characterized as "uniform, unchanging
    and limitless". Although Essence is incomprehensible from the finite
    perspective, one may logically infer that Essence is "uncreated", which
    eliminates creatio ex nihilo as well as the infinite regression of prior
    causes. But any attributive description of the Absolute eludes the power of
    logic. So the question for ontology is: How do we get from the immovable
    absolute to the transitional relative?

    "In an essay on Mysticism, Andrey Smimov of the Department of Oriental
    Philosophy at Russia's Academy of Sciences, discusses how the mystics of
    Europe and Islam got around the inadequacy of definitions in describing a
    divinity or primary cause. "The mystics understood the indefinableness of
    God in a far wider sense than did other medieval philosophers and thinkers.
    Indefinableness, as the mystics put it, traverses the limits of the
    indefinable in the sense of Aristotelian logic. For anything to be
    indefinable *per genus et differentiam* does not exclude at all the
    possibility of description, and description is, of course, stating something
    definite about the thing described. But the indefinableness of God in a
    mystical sense comes in fact to be *indefiniteness*; that is, it rules out
    any definite proposition about the Divine essence. Any such proposition
    means a sort of limitation imposed on the Divine, while the latter is
    incompatible with any limit. The ontological *unlimitedness* of God entails
    for a mystic an epistemological indefiniteness: any assertion about God
    would then be only metaphorical and would not serve as an established basis
    of knowledge."

    "Faced with these descriptive limitations, Nicholas of Cusa [1401-1464]
    developed an epistemology based on a theory of "not other" as a symbolic
    connotation for God. Cusa's argument was that, although God is indefinable,
    it can be stated that the world is not God but *is not anything other than
    God*. Such reasoning was certainly not unknown to the Neo-Platonists and
    medieval thinkers like Eckhart, but it was the mystical tradition that gave
    the concept of a "negated other" logical credibility as a creational thesis.
    What distinguished the mystics was their close linking of these two
    assertions. I find it surprising that Western philosophers have shown
    little interest in a not-other ontology and have virtually ignored a
    negational Source as the primary cause. The rationale for negation is quite
    simply that any created thing is a lesser entity than the whole. Since the
    objects of creation are secondary and inferior to the undifferentiated
    whole, they can arise only by negation of the whole."

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    Have I added any new insight to your dilemma, Ian?

    Best regards,
    Ham

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