From: Joseph Maurer (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Mar 22 2005 - 18:46:00 GMT
On 22 March 2005 9:43 AM Platt writes to all:
[Platt] The point I've been trying to make which Arlo ignores has to do with
Pirsig's explanation of why American suffers from a moral degeneration,
explicated by Ham's post of 2/27 and exemplified this week by a judge's
decision to let a helpless person starve to death.
Hi Platt and all,
As a singer in choir I more appreciate Arlo's point that if someone makes
efforts in music, it is probably O.K. America suffers from a moral
degeneration from an abundance of 'teach others sense' 'put them on the
right road' from a psychic-organic need in people. There is a disconnect
between killing people in war to teach them freedom, and overriding a state
judge's decision to starve a person to death after careful deliberation.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>; <owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: MD Nihilism (Punk)
> All:
>
> Arlo's attempts at a "logical" defense of rock, which he does not deny
> celebrates biological quality, is futile because the subject he tries to
> bring under the umbrella of critical analysis is an art form (though
> laughably so). If he can't tell the difference between the singing of
> Frank Sinatra vs.Ozzy Osbourne or the lyrics of Cole Porter vs. Snoop Dogg
> or a waltz beat vs. a rock beat (much less paintings by Homer vs.
> KinKaid), then why go on? As the old Latin proverb says, "De gustibus non
> est disputandum" - There's no accounting for taste.
>
> The point I've been trying to make which Arlo ignores has to do with
> Pirsig's explanation of why American suffers from a moral degeneration,
> explicated by Ham's post of 2/27 and exemplified this week by a judge's
> decision to let a helpless person starve to death.
>
> I would hope that since this is a site devoted to the MOQ that some
> attention would be paid to what Pirsig had to say about moral degeneration
> and why is has occurred. I suggest that those who haven't read Chapter 24
> of Lila lately read it again and then tell me that rock is not part of the
> biological ocean that "intellectuals have failed to understand,." and that
> rock which had , in Arlo's words, "its origins in social protest of
> injustice and inequality" doesn't coincide with Pirsig's description of
> the Hippie revolution that became a "disastrous mistake."
>
> In any case, focusing attention and commenting on what Pirsig says about
> the current state of social degeneration rather than quibbling on and on
> about my and Bloom's "vapid logic" seems to me a higher quality use of
> valuable time, though I won't deny the therapeutic value this site
> provides for Arlo's psychological need to be "one up."
>
> Platt
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