From: Richard Loggins (brloggins@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Apr 02 2005 - 21:05:48 BST
I'll ventur to say that until you are personally in a
PVS situation yourself, you don't know what kind of
black board you have. Her parents say she responded to
them. The congress got way out of hand, i'll grant you
that.
Rich
--- David Buchanan <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
wrote:
>
> Richard Loggins said:
> The idea that a 'senseless unpatterned state is a
> valuable state of existence' makes me wonder about
> Terry Shiavo. Whose to say that she was'nt in a
> perfect state of bliss until they pulled the tube
> and
> killed her. Her brain scans showed mostly a soup of
> fluids but as Pirsig points out in Lila, Quality has
> never been found in the brain. Social and
> intellectual
> patterns are not a mere extension from the physical,
> but are independant of it. Until the SOM that
> infultrates our laws is superseded by Quality, we
> will
> have to despair the Quality-less decisions of our
> policital systems. May she be blessed with Quality
> even in death, tho life be better.
>
> dmb replies:
> Apples and oranges. The "unpatterned state" that
> results from electro-shock
> therapy can't be compared to Terry's case. Its like
> the difference between
> erasing a chalk board so that any number of things
> can be written on it and
> melting down the chalk board so that nothing can
> ever be written.
>
> And I think the President and every congress person
> who participated in
> passing that ridiculously narrow law is guilty of
> violating their sworn oath
> to protect the constitution. Waht they did is
> against the law - against the
> nation's highest law. And they will use her case to
> further attack the law,
> specifically judges who aren't sufficently
> right-wing. And don't even get me
> started on Tom Delay. The guy belongs in jail. And
> speaking of prison, if
> these religious fanatics were genuinely interested
> in promoting a "culture
> of life" they might spend a little more time
> worrying about the 26 people
> that were tortured to death in our prisons. Or the
> intelligence failures
> that led to 9/11 and our current unjustified war. I
> mean, its seems pretty
> clear to me that the current administration has a
> bit of a death fetish.
> (The neo-con death cult.)
>
> My family recently went through one of these
> nightmares. My late, great
> father-in-law was at home on a respirator for nearly
> a year before he died
> of ALS. As you can imagine, the idea that the US
> congress could reach down
> into that situation struck horror in us all.
>
>
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