From: MarshaV (marshalz@charter.net)
Date: Sat Apr 02 2005 - 20:52:11 BST
David,
I agree with you. This whole episode was sickening. Tom DeLay is
major sleaze to use religion for political purposes. Our Congress-people
are disgusting.
At 11:03 AM 4/2/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Richard Loggins said:
>The idea that a 'senseless unpatterned state is a
>valuable state of existence' makes me wonder about
>Terry Shiavo. Whose to say that she was'nt in a
>perfect state of bliss until they pulled the tube and
>killed her. Her brain scans showed mostly a soup of
>fluids but as Pirsig points out in Lila, Quality has
>never been found in the brain. Social and intellectual
>patterns are not a mere extension from the physical,
>but are independant of it. Until the SOM that
>infultrates our laws is superseded by Quality, we will
>have to despair the Quality-less decisions of our
>policital systems. May she be blessed with Quality
>even in death, tho life be better.
>
>dmb replies:
>Apples and oranges. The "unpatterned state" that results from electro-shock
>therapy can't be compared to Terry's case. Its like the difference between
>erasing a chalk board so that any number of things can be written on it and
>melting down the chalk board so that nothing can ever be written.
>
>And I think the President and every congress person who participated in
>passing that ridiculously narrow law is guilty of violating their sworn oath
>to protect the constitution. Waht they did is against the law - against the
>nation's highest law. And they will use her case to further attack the law,
>specifically judges who aren't sufficently right-wing. And don't even get me
>started on Tom Delay. The guy belongs in jail. And speaking of prison, if
>these religious fanatics were genuinely interested in promoting a "culture
>of life" they might spend a little more time worrying about the 26 people
>that were tortured to death in our prisons. Or the intelligence failures
>that led to 9/11 and our current unjustified war. I mean, its seems pretty
>clear to me that the current administration has a bit of a death fetish.
>(The neo-con death cult.)
>
>My family recently went through one of these nightmares. My late, great
>father-in-law was at home on a respirator for nearly a year before he died
>of ALS. As you can imagine, the idea that the US congress could reach down
>into that situation struck horror in us all.
>
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