From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Thu Apr 28 2005 - 15:04:55 BST
Hi Scott --
... and welcome back!
You're the second respondent to assert that reality is semiotic. I'm not
well versed in semiotics. Doesn't this simply mean that everything in
reality is symbolic? And, if that's the meaning, where's the "beef"? In
other words, what is the "real" reality?
> Scott:
> I would just call (B) immaterialism, since Platonic idealism is not
> consciousness-centric, and other idealisms (Berkeley, Kant, Hegel,
Bradley)
> all have their quirks. In any case, I've stated several times my notion of
> "primary reality": everything is semiotic. This is, I suppose, a variation
> on (B). I feel it is well expressed by Aquinas: "The object of nature is
> established between two intelligences."
I don't understand the Aquinas statement. What does he mean by "between two
intelligences"? Is he referring to Divine Intelligence versus human
intelligence?
Do you agree with Arlo that my "two choices represent 'subjectivism' and
'objectivism'."? If so, by choosing Statement B you are opting for a
subjective reality (i.e., conscious awareness or proprietary sensibility).
Arlo also said:
> I'd (personally) reject both in favor of a
> sociocultural or semiotic-driven framework.
I guess I'm a literalist, but it seems to me that a semiotic-driven
framework implies something to fill the frame. In other words, the primary
reality would be whatever is the "content" of the framework.
So far, reality for the MD still seems very fuzzy.
The Hoffman quote is from an interview he gave while promoting his book
"Visual Intelligence", published by W.W. Norton & Co. in 1998. The Runes
statement was extracted from the defnition for Dialectical Materialism in
his "Dictionary of Philosophy", Littlefield, Adams & Co., 15th edition,
1964.
Thanks for your perspective, Scott
Ham
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