From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun May 01 2005 - 15:41:34 BST
Hi Arlo,
Just want to add something to our conversation regarding patterns as
conceptions vs.intrinsic.
The Rosetta Stone for me in grasping Pirsig's idea of Quality is the
experience of beauty which, while assuredly real, is totally
nonconceptual, i.e., cannot be put into formulas or words. Basically,
there are two types of beauty, that of direct sensual experience like a
sunset, and that of a harmonious pattern relationship as in a mathematical
formula. I attribute the immediate experience of beauty in either case as
a response to DQ, and any ensuing reaction to the experience as static
quality, or patterns that emerge "in the wake" of DQ. This notion about
beauty I believe reflects Pirsig's example of DQ of hearing a song that at
first "stops you in your tracks (Lila, 9).
While this hardly doesn't resolve the "intrinsic" issue, I thought it
might lead to some further thoughts on the subject.
Platt
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