From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Mon May 02 2005 - 09:23:15 BST
OK Mark - you can have the last word ;-)
Regards,
Ian
(PS - Yes I did like the Vonnegut quote, and almost remarked on it
earlier - I wonder why I wonder why I wonder why, etc - meta-thinking
- some famous scientist or other - nano-tech guy .... on the tip of my
tongue.)
On 5/2/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
> On 2 May 2005 at 10:18, ian glendinning wrote:
>
> "I'd strongly recommend MoQ-Discuss isn't used for historical,
> macro-level (low-quality) political debate, because I believe we're
> very unlikely to make any porogress relating it to (any) philosophy"
>
> msh:
> Well, I've had too many valuable political discussions, on this list
> and elsewhere in life, to agree that political debate of any kind is
> low-quality, if that is what you are saying. If all parties in a
> discussion, whether or not it's political, are willing to evaluate
> evidence and argument presented to them, and in turn present evidence
> and argument in defense of their positions, the results can be very
> high-quality indeed. Minds can be changed through sincere political
> discussion; it's happened to me, and I've seen it happen to hundreds
> of others in my life.
>
> ian:
> I already know Platt talks 99% twaddle, and I can't see you changing
> his mind. In fact, like Dawkins, by protesting so much you run the
> risk of painting yourself into the opposite extreme corner. Which
> would be sad.
>
> msh:
> Here I agree with you 100%, and will take your advice to heart. No
> more wasted effort on lost causes.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
>
> PS - What do you think of the Vonnegut quote, below?
>
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