From: mark maxwell (laughingpines@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Fri Jul 01 2005 - 00:24:21 BST
Hi Mark Maxwell,
> Mark: All property is theft Platte.
Spoken like a true Communist.
Hello Platte,
Spoken as one who feels a poetic unease with ownership
without relationship. I feel very uneasy about what it
means to be able to posses anything as one's own - i
am uneasy even about self. How can a selfless person
own anything?
These are philosophical questions and they are asked
in a spirit of intellectual enquiery. I assume they
may be regarded this way because i have been
recommended books concerning these issues by people
with high quality intellectual credentials. But i may
be mistaken in this and a great many things.
An overview may begin along these lines: We, as
relationships of sq patterns responding to, and
migrating towards DQ, may be said to 'be'. That is
'who' we are - events in the event stream.
We may be said to 'own' that which we care about and
cultivate a mutually enriching relationship with. So,
Mr. Pirsig 'owns' 'his' motorcycle or boat because he
migrates towards DQ with them and maintains them at
their best. 'I' 'own' my guitar because i have played
it for about 20 years and it fits 'me' like that glove
in ZMM - we are old friends.
I feel uneasy about owning anything that is simply
regarded as mine because i am at social liberty to
deny other people.
Those who own a great deal of land and wealth can not
possibly form caring and mutually enriching
relationships with every aspect of that which they
own, because there simply isn't enough time to be that
good with all of it.
> Mark: If you steal a little they call you a thief
> you steal allot they call you a King (corporate
> entity) Platte.
Yes, I know. Commies believe corporations are the
enemy of humanity and
"must be extinguished from the Earth."
Mark: What i am aiming at is this: If we begin with
the assumption that anyone can and indeed does own
that which they can not have the time to form mutually
enriching relationships with, then it may be there is
a degree after which it becomes low quality to assume
you can posses things.
Once this degree is transcended, the best that can be
achieved may be the social power and influence one
gains over those who are denied. I think this relates
to the situation you regard to be immoral Platte.
> Mark: Looks like your government is a corporate
entity
> then doesn't it Platte. You would understand this if
> you read your Chomsky. But you don't, do you?
I read Chomsky for laughs. He doesn't understand, but
even a child
knows
the difference between those with legal power to
create jobs and
revenue
and those with legal power to kill.
Platte
Mark: I am happy you find Chomsky to be of some value.
Tobacco production, processing and proliferation by
legal marketing strategies creates jobs and revenue.
The fact that it kills millions of people does not
seem to be differentiated from legal revenue
generation and job provision by successive U.S.
governments in the way Chomsky and children appear to
understand.
Regards,
Mark
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