From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jul 01 2005 - 05:33:07 BST
I like it Platt.
In response two points ...
(1) A quote I've made before from a scientist (artifical intelligence,
applied cognitive science) practitioner called Jean-Pierre Dupuy ...
"I'm torn between my need to think in terms of formal models and my
deeply held conviction that art and literature are a superior form of
knowledge." Kinda supports putting art on that pedestal.
(2) the point about levels of quality within the intellectual layer,
is an illustration of an earlier point I explained very badly, about
"everything comes in layers, including the layers". What we have is a
deep scale of innumerable "onion skins" - where we draw hard lines to
separate particular distinct layers (like intellectual or social) we
are imposing or recognising some emergent property that is not part of
the underlying "quality" itself. Qaulity is relative - by definition -
some is higher than others - end of story.
Ian
On 7/1/05, Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> The relationship of art to moral reality as set forth by the MOQ has often
> been a point of discussion in the MD. I think it's fair to say that most
> of us agree that art can no more be divorced from morality than any other
> artifact of intellect, whether it be the equations of a theoretical
> physicist or the service provided by a competent waitress. But art for
> art's sake such as one finds in paintings, music, theater, dance and the
> like stands above the high moral level of intellect, or at least such was
> hinted at by Pirsig when he referred to DQ as a a kind of "code of Art."
> (Lila, 13)
>
> Today I happened across a passage written Frederick Hart, a sculptuer of
> world renown whose work I've admired for many years. To me he sums up
> pretty well what Pirsig was driving at in placing art above all the other
> levels:
>
> "I believe that art has a moral responsibility, that it must pursue
> something higher than itself. Art must be a part of life. It must exist in
> the domain of the common man. It must be an enriching, ennobling and vital
> partner in the public pursuit of civilization. It should be a majestic
> presence in everyday life just as it was in the past."
>
> Some of Hart's work can be viewed at:
>
> http://www.lahainagalleries.com/frederick_hart.htm
>
> Best,
> Platt
>
>
>
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