Re: MD Art and the MOQ

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Jul 05 2005 - 13:01:43 BST

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    Ian, Horse:

    Thanks to you both for your recommendations into the question of emergent
    properties. I will try to follow up as best I can. I will also try to heed
    Ian's advice about seeking a "quality" explanation. But, in the back of my
    mind (try as I might to suspend disbelief) will probably always hang a
    doubt as succinctly expressed by Ken Wilber, namely that the bottom line
    of the scientific explanation is "Oops." One of the more interesting
    aspects of the MOQ is its explanation of some emergent properties when it
    cites DQ as being the "creative force." (Lila, 17). For me that
    explanation, when considered in the context of the entire MOQ, ranks right
    up there in "quality." I look forward to any further thoughts you have on
    this subject.

    Best,
    Platt
       
    > Platt, on emergence ...
    >
    > I'm flattered by the "if anyone can Ian can" confidence.
    > I'm going to have very little on-line time for the next few days, but
    > I will come back.
    >
    > Can I suggest you follow-up some of the subjects "over your head" with the
    > authors I've already mentioned (Stewart, Gleick, Hofstadter and Deutsch),
    > and of course Dawkins and Dennett. Evolution is the archetypal (but not
    > exclusive) area to see emergence explained. (I will come back with some
    > more examples as to how I would explain and illustrate the idea.)
    >
    > Forget "objective scientific causal proof" (suspend disbelief anyway)
    > Think "believable quality explanation".
    >
    > See ya
    > Ian

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