Re: MD Where is the Zen&

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 31 2005 - 16:39:07 BST

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    Erin, when you quote Pirsig saying ..

    "Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I
    just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I
    have to say has more lasting value"

    Do you not hear Mark Anthony declaring
    "I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him." ?

    Not much :-)
    Ian

    On 7/31/05, Erin <macavity11@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I wasn't sure what thread I wanted to add this to ....it seems to parallel a
    > few of the threads (e.g.call for involvement in political discussions; role
    > of individual) going on but think I will stick it in here.
    >
    > pg. 304 ZMM
    >
    > "I think that ti f we are going to reform the world, and make it a better
    > place to live in, thw ay to do it is not with talk about relationships of a
    > political nature, which are inevitablly dualistic, full of subjects and
    > objects and their relationship to one another; or with programs full of
    > things for other people to do. I think that kind of approach starts it at
    > the end and presumes the end is the beginning. Programs of a political
    > nature are important end products of social quality that can be effective
    > only if the underlying structure of social values is right. The social
    > values are right only if the individual values are right. The place to
    > improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands, and then
    > work outward from there. Other people can talk about how to expand the
    > destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I
    > think that what I have to say has more lasting value."
    >
    >
    > Erin
    >

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