Re: MD Self-Evident MoQ Truths

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@cox.net)
Date: Wed Aug 10 2005 - 07:35:58 BST

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    Ian,

    As an explanation for covering the gaps DQ is bankrupt. Otherwise one can
    say useful things with it. But why think there are gaps that need to be
    filled? This problem goes away if one accepts that valued information is
    meaningful only if there is consciousness.

    - Scott

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron@gmail.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:18 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Self-Evident MoQ Truths

    Scott ... if you think DQ is "bankrupt" you are clearly not on the MoQ
    side of any line, are you.

    Ian

    On 8/10/05, Scott Roberts <jse885@cox.net> wrote:
    > Ian,
    >
    > Well, that raises the questions of where do people such as myself stand,
    > who
    > consider both explanations bankrupt? The gaps exist in the first place as
    > a
    > result of SOM patterns of thought (what Barfield calls the sin of
    > omission -- of ignoring that the appearances we call the natural world are
    > mental creations).
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron@gmail.com>
    >
    > So thanks Scott, you make my point.
    >
    > People who wave DQ about are on the MoQ side of that line in the sand.
    > People who wave God about are on the other.
    > Dead simple.
    >
    > A decision on which is better or worse (DQ or God) is a matter of
    > choosing which side of that line.
    >
    > Ian
    >
    > On 8/9/05, Scott Roberts <jse885@cox.net> wrote:
    > > Ian,
    > >
    > > Ian said:
    > > Atheistic / Non-Theistic ? I feel it is explicit that MoQ does not
    > > "require" god as part of its explanation, there are no gaps waiting to
    > > be filled
    > >
    > > Scott:
    > > I fail to see how the MOQ has no gaps waiting to be filled. Doesn't it
    > > just
    > > wave "DQ" at the question of how the universe gets from one level to
    > > another? I don't see this as any better (or worse) an explanation than
    > > saying "God did it".
    > >
    > > - Scott
    >
    >
    >
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