From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Aug 13 2005 - 21:54:38 BST
Hi MSH
You said
Excluding anyone from expressing his or her opinion is ALWAYS the
worst of all actions. Anywhere, any time.
I say
That's very courageous and principled of you.
I only said it was the best of a bad choice.
What I really said was, having let said person express said opinon,
the best response was ridicule, or sardonic wit if you can rise to it.
(Bob for some reason suggested that was non intellectual, whereas I
thought it was about as intellectual as you could get.)
Oh, and believe me, I do "appreciate" your efforts. I'm constantly
impressed by the effort and the coherent logic, I'm just not sure it's
the best use of air time and bandwidth. But each to his own, eh Bob ?
Ian
On 8/13/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
> Ian, me old mate,
>
>
> On 13 Aug 2005 at 12:13, ian glendinning wrote:
>
> Mark you use the word "political" 3 or 4 times in your brief post.
>
> msh:
> Ok, but I left out that I almost always tie my political thinking
> into the MOQ hierarchy of morality and other principles of the
> Metaphysics of Quality. As do Ant, Sam, Arlo, and even The Old
> Plant. People who carefully read what we write will be aware of
> this. If you think politics has nothing to do with the quality of
> life then you're not paying enough attention to what happens at the
> Social Level.
>
> <snip stuff answered by above>
>
> ian:
> Resign ? Never.
> Exclude Platt ? probably the best of a bad binary choice.
>
> msh:
> Excluding anyone from expressing his or her opinion is ALWAYS the
> worst of all actions. Anywhere, any time.
>
> ian:
> Until then dismissive ridicule is better than diginification with
> serious analysis, as I've said repeatedly. Humour is in fact usually
> the best solution. Come on all you Bill Hicks fans, practice what you
> preach. Rip him to shreds.
>
> msh:
> I can do both, at the same time. Whatever serious analysis I provide
> is written for the web. If a few listers appreciate my efforts, then
> more the better.
>
> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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>
>
>
> On 8/13/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just a quick comment here, for clarification...
> >
> > On 11 Aug 2005 at 14:58, Ant McWatt wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, while certain members on this discussion group insist
> > in employing right-wing propaganda icw the MOQ, I feel that I have a
> > moral duty to challenge it especially when I hear that one of the MOQ
> > conference attendees is going to resign from MOQ Discuss particularly
> > because of Platt's political posts.
> >
> > msh:
> > FWIW, I have no objection to political posts of any persuasion. What
> > I object to is the repeated posting of political opinions
> > unsubstantiated by argument and evidence when challenged. That is, I
> > object to political assertions without philosophical foundation.
> > This isn't the O'Reilley-Limbaugh news hour: they already waste more
> > bandwidth than they deserve.
> >
> >
> > Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
> > --
> > InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors
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> >
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> > and Afghanistan, the great specialty of industry and technology has been
> > the mass production of human corpses."
> >
> > --Edward Abbey
> >
>
>
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