From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Sep 10 2005 - 21:28:37 BST
Hi Ian,
> > > Because as Ham put it "Behind that facade of polite naiveté is an urge
> > > to shoot." You always insist on missing the point.
> >
> > What point?
>
> [IG] The one I'm explainig here, dummy ...
Thanks for the personal attack.
> > > I'm not saying I (or ZMM or Lila) "looks unfavourably" on classical
> > > logical rationale - whate we're saying is it lacks the more immediate,
> > > subjective, mystical aspects of "art".
> > In the above sentence you shift from "I" to "we." Who are the others?
>
> [IG] As I said explicity in the sentence you are reading - me and the
> words of ZMM and Lila.
Show me the words in ZMM and Lila that say classical reason lacks the
mystical aspects of art.
> [G] And I say - What GOF (Good Old Fashioned) Classical Logic
> generally lacks is the more subjective arts, even any given logical
> argument maybe be crafted as a work of art.
So give us some examples of what you're talking about, a before version in
GOF classical logic and after version crafted as a work of art.
> [IG] As Ham says your "polite naivite" stinks. You, and I and everyone else
> here has their own readings of Pirsigs literal words, as you well know. You
> simply quote his words as if your own interpretation were the self evident
> truth. Some of us have the honesty to explain which interpretations we read
> into them and which we agree with or not. The debate is to home in on
> quality common interpretations, I hope. Obviously I believe he's more right
> than wrong otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time here would I. But his
> bare words are not literally true by some divine definition.
As I said, if you don't believe what the man says, it's OK by me.
> [IG] As I said, I know you know I know you are deliberately
> infuriating. You couldn't possibly be that dumb.
Oh, but I could. Aren't all conservatives dumb?
Platt
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