Re: MD Pirsig the postmodernist?

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2003 - 14:48:09 GMT

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    Hi Johnny:

    > Platt said
    > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Foucault imply if not say outright
    > >that "relativity of thought" is a universal while at the same time
    > >>denying the existence of universals?
    >
    > Not at the same time, no. First he says it's a universal, then he denies
    > universals, then he says it's a universal, then he denies universals. You
    > just have to keep up with him and he stays true.

    Wait a minute. Doesn't Foucault deny that anything is true?

    > It is just a sort of
    > Euclidian geometry that prevents something from being both true and false
    > "at the same time", because the "at the same time" turns out to be
    > meaningless, merely a logical hang-up for stubborn minds who don't want to
    > ride the DQ of ever-oscillating truths.

    So, Foucault and postmodernists find logic to be a "hang up" and thus
    irrelevant?

    > Most things are both true and
    > false, because the observer changes, the context changes, the whole
    > universe changes, at every moment, and it is impossible to stay in a moment
    > long enough to nail anything down. You don't have time to hang a sign...
     
    So what postmodernists say is both true and false? Then why should I
    believe them when I can never know at any time whether what they are
    saying is true or false? How can you say above that Foucault "stays
    true" when everything changes?

    The more I learn about postmodernism, the more irrational it becomes.

    Platt

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