Re: MD The 4th level renamed?

From: David Harding (davidharding@optusnet.com.au)
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 13:43:46 BST

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    skutvik@online.no wrote
    >>I've got 'the ultimate formulation' for you. Quality. Quality just
    >>like reality has this unique, one of a kind, perfect for any
    >>metaphysics, ability where it can be both ultimate and changing at the
    >>same time. Ultimate, to me is just another description of quality.
    >>The best description we have at any one time is the ultimate
    >>description. Of course like quality, the ultimate can always be
    >>replaced by something better. Who's not to like this?
    >
    >
    > First David, do you see and eventually approve of my
    > metaphysical exercise here? Postulating the lesser "moq" (its
    > "intellectual" framework) as remaining intellectual (so that they
    > (who ask where it is) are satisfied) while the greater MOQ is the
    > Quality Reality we live in.
    >
    > I think Quality is fine, the reason for Pirsig choosing it as reality's
    > ground you demonstrate perfectly: Whatever one may think is the
    > ultimate, something BETTER can always be imagined. However,
    > I was more looking for the ultimate way of expressing the above
    > trick of eating the cake and keeping it.
    >
    > What do you say.
    >
    > Bo
    >
    Hi Bo,

    Right I say that 'you can cut your cake and keep it until a better one gets baked'. But then your not happy? So you say, 'I want to cut my cake, keep it (and then be sure no other cakes get made)'. I
    guess can try and hold on to things like that if you want, but you might find a tough time paddling upstream..

    Also, to me the 'greater moq' you refer to I think is called simply, Quality. There is no need for this label 'moq' as anything with the label 'metaphysics' is an intellectual description of reality
    and not reality itself. If you really want to rename quality, how about you call it 'greater' and drop the moq part?

    -David.

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