From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 2005 - 17:44:16 BST
Hi all,
I'm kinda swamped and don't have time to participate fully, but I'd
like to inject a couple of quick comments and see if anyone wants to
run with them.
On 15 Oct 2005 at 16:16, gav wrote:
it is time for us to take reponsibility for our own
existence. no more relying on corporations and
governments whom i suspect dont have our best
interests at heart. hey call me paranoid.
msh 15 Oct 2005:
You're not paranoid. But, how do we take responsibility for our own
existence, and stop relying on corporations and governments? If we
don't control corporations and the governments they own and operate,
corporations and governments will increasingly control US and our
physical, intellectual, and cultural environments, whether we like it
or not. The historical record is pretty clear in this regard.
So... How do we control or abolish corporations and reclaim our
governments without politics? Ignoring them and hoping they will go
away, or do the right thing on their own, doesn't seem to be very
promising. Every positive social movement I can think of has
resulted from grass roots political agitation and activism, not from
unprompted moral fiat from people in power.
I think the antipathy towards politics on this list and elsewhere
derives from the view of the political process offered by the
commercial media, which, because their purpose is to sell audiences
to advertisers, are interested in entertaining not informing. Thus
we have the carnival and combative atmosphere of the so-called
political shows on TV and commercial radio, and, here in the States
and elsewhere, the clearly fraudulent idea that some sort of multi-
party system is in operation. Anyone who pays the slightest
attention to the world around them knows that this simply isn't true,
that our options are almost always strictly limited by powers beyond
our control, and therefore, rightly, regards the political process as
a sham. But the process will remain a sham as long as we don't work
to change it. And I, at least, don't see how we can change it
without either participating in it, or destroying it.
Best to all,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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