Re: MD Holy Holy Holy Trinity

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 02 2005 - 09:43:17 GMT

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    Rebecca, (and DMB)

    A faux pas ? As you suggest you are stepping into emotive territory.

    But I have to say I agree with you - there is almost certainly more
    than coincidence in the recurring threesomes. DMB is our man on the
    myths behind the religious metaphors.

    As for emotive ... I can talk religion, even christianity ...

    ... until the first contributor uses "god" in any sentence with any
    combination of personal pronouns and active verbs ... then I have been
    known to lose it. Ask Sam :-)

    Ian

    On 11/2/05, Rebecca Temmer <ratemmer.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I'm reposting this because it didn't go through the first time and it's been
    > two days...
    >
    > Ian (Picky) and Matt:
    >
    > ------ I'd like to resubject this thread because it no longer has anything
    > to do with "Chaos and it's role in Evolution" and In order to respect Mark's
    > discussion ------
    >
    > "holy holy holy trinity..." It's something I've been thinking about a bit
    > lately that I wasn't sure if i should bring up with the group or not because
    > it's sure to be a touchy subject. While we're here, however - what, if
    > anything, are the similarities between the Christian mystery of the Holy
    > trinity and Quality? Three in one, one in three.
    >
    > This is an idea that's been haunting me for a while; perhaps it's my
    > penchant for drawing obtuse connections. But there seem to be relationships
    > between {God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit} and {Quality,
    > Static Quality, Dynamic Quality}. Not between the physical (or spiritual)
    > things but between the philosophical conceptions - the ideas that I have of
    > them. I don't really care if this suggestion is faux pas - that we're
    > trying to stay away from the social level controlled by the Church or some
    > such nonsense. Pirsig has a deliberate focus on eastern Mysticism but he
    > comes from a Christian tradition and those ideas are buried very deeply in
    > the subconscious of our society. Maybe a bit of a look into these Christian
    > ideas could give us a bit more of a handle on Quality.
    >
    >
    > Rebecca
    >
    > PS. I'm not big on labels but Relationist sounds wonderful to me.
    > Especially since absolutists seem to think that relativism sees everything
    > as equal - I guess that's part of the blind spot in their point of view.
    >
    >
    > __
    > Replying to:
    > Rebecca, Matt,
    >
    > Call me picky, but for me ...
    >
    > * one thing
    > * interacting with
    > * another thing
    >
    > ... is three things - the triplet as I've referred to it before.
    > Same idea, same "event" though, so no argument.
    >
    > I like "relationalist" as a riposte to accusations of "relativist"
    >
    > Ian
    >

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