Re: MD Philosophy and Theology

From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Mar 28 2003 - 15:22:42 GMT

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    Hey Sam,

    > > You have become confused Sam. "Theology" does not equal "religion".
    > In
    > > the MoQ, neither Islam nor Christianity operate at the Intellectual
    level.
    > > You will notice that the SODV paper cites "church" as a social pattern.
    > > Theology is an intellectual pattern because it is the methods of reason
    > and
    > > rationality applied to social patterns of religion. But that doesn't
    make
    > > religion itself an intellectual pattern. That is, the fact that
    "theology"
    > > (the study of religion) is an intellectual pattern doesn't mean that
    > > Christianity (an object of theology) is an intellectual pattern anymore
    > than
    > > the fact that entomology (the study of insects) is an intellectual
    pattern
    > > means that a cockroach (an object of entomology) is an intellectual
    > pattern.

    SAM
    > Fair point, to an extent. I should have said something like 'Islamic
    > theology operates at the intellectual level'. To my way of thinking
    > 'religion' includes both social and intellectual level aspects, so
    theology
    > does not equal religion, it is included in religion.

    RICK
    Okay. So to you "Religion" = Theology + Church. It sounds to me then like
    you're thinking of "theology" as the actual doctrine of a religion rather
    than a study of religious doctrine....

    SAME
    Moreover, I don't think
    > that theology stands in the same relationship to Christianity (or Islam)
    > that entomology does to cockroaches. I would say there is an internal
    > relationship between the two, not an 'objective' relationship in the way
    you
    > describe.

    RICK
    Well, I guess it depends on how you use the word "theology". If it's taken
    to reflect the actual doctrine of a religion (a part of the religion) as you
    like it, then you'd be right in saying the relationship was not an objective
    one. I've always thought thought of Theology as the objectification of
    religious doctrines and practices for study (that's how they taught it up at
    Cornell). It's just a semantic thing I guess.

    take care,
    rick

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