Re: MD Intellectual Art (Dynamic Morality)

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Apr 06 2003 - 16:37:51 BST

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    Scott:

    > > > "Quality is uncharacterizable" is a self-refuting statement, as it
    > > > characterizes Quality.
    > >
    > > Yes. To say we can't define ultimately reality is to define it.
    > >
    > > > Sometimes self-refuting statements are useful. Actually, I'll go
    > further,
    > > > and say that sometimes they are necessary.
    > >
    > > How so? Please explain. Like the sound of one hand clapping perhaps?
    >
    > Like "Quality is uncharacteriazable". Pirsig found it useful, and so do I.
    >
    > Yes, koans are useful to Rinzai Zen folks, but that seems to be more to
    > stop intellect than assist it. I find self-refutation, or its cousin
    > self-negation, to be a necessary tool in approaching (not describing)
    > consciousness, language and the relation between DQ and SQ (what Nishida
    > calls the logic of contradictory identity, Coleridge and Barfield call
    > polarity, and Derrida calls (temporarily) differance).

    Nicely stated. I call this phenomena that we understand but can only
    hint at with language "simultaneous duality." It's the kind of
    understanding that comes prior to concepts and, like DQ, cannot be
    said.

    Platt

      

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