From: phyllis bergiel (neilfl@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Thu May 29 2003 - 04:55:55 BST
Hi Nic (and nice to meet you):
Phyllis said:
"Her taste was perfect , so her morals did'nt matter"
My interpretation of this in the light of MOQ , is that this is a version of arete . A development of character that enables one to act in ways that maximize dynamic quality gains while minimizing degenerative experiments . It includes the harmonization of all dynamic gains and static patterns . This means that intellectual development is not necessary to make those gains ; ie a morality based on reasoned argument is not required to be moral , but an instinctual in sorting experience is .
and Nic replied:
The quote says it all , and equally true would be :
"His morals were perfect , so his taste did'nt matter ."
Taste is taken from the subconcious , including the collective subconcious , where all that is known is available . Therefore if you have perfect confidence in your instincts you will always be right . The danger lying in fear and doubt .
Can't agree. I can have perfect confidence and still be wrong. Confidence may influence how willing I am to take risks based on my instincts, but it doesn't change the reality. Also, this is contra Pirsig, since DQ the real is not known, especially at as a collective subconscious
in either the genetic or cultural sense.
Similarly if you base your decisions on reasoned or concious argument , if you have perfect information you will again always be right , the danger being in incomplete information .
Or, bad reasoning, even if the info is good. See recent U.S. events on this one. Dubya's got the CIA, FBI, etc. and he still can't get it right. Sorry, I digress.
So the being with perfect instincts will come to same conclusions as the being with perfect information , and the perfect modernist agrees with the perfect post-modernist .
While I usually staunchly defend the strengths of reason, it has lacks on occasion. I think this may be due to response time. Intuition can act immediately, reason can't and this time lag often kills the (DQ) moment. Examples provided upon request.;-)
Phyllis
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