From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 01 2003 - 10:38:03 BST
Hi David,
: By the way, my use of the phrase "mere abstraction" is not intended to
: insult the power of abstraction but to dispell the notion that intellectual
: values, properly understood, are much more than high cognitive function,
: that ethics, values, morals, aesthetics and all kinds of warm, fuzzy, human
: things are included there too. Its a denial of Sam's Spockish vision of the
: 4th level.
I'm not sure I follow the sense of what you are saying here - the last sentence seems to contradict
the first. (A typo 'affirm' rather than 'dispell'?).
But if you *are* saying that the fourth level includes "ethics, values, morals, aesthetics and all
kinds of warm, fuzzy, human things" - ie all the things I think of as 'eudaimonic' - then our
disagreements are much less than I thought.
Which would be nice. We can then spend time arguing over whether 'intellect' is the best word to
describe all those things, as opposed to 'eudaimonic' or something else. I can't get away from the
suspicion that you *don't* think that though. Particularly as I'm not sure that the first three of
those things listed actually are fourth level - they seem like the third level to me.
Sam
"Phaedrus is fascinated too by the description of the motive of 'duty toward self' which is an
almost exact translation of the Sanskrit word 'dharma', sometimes described as the 'one' of the
Hindus. Can the 'dharma' of the Hindus and the 'virtue' of the Ancient Greeks be identical?" - The
Eudaimonic MoQ says yes. "Lightning hits!"
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