From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Jun 05 2003 - 20:22:18 BST
Hi Johnny,
> you weren't serious, right? I know you feel there are absolutes, I am
> surprised if you feel there is value to killing off SOM completely.
Yes, I was serious, although the value of seriousness is often overrated.
We don't need SOM any more. The world is a world of concepts--patterns of
Quality. Patterns only exist as mental abstractions. What is the benefit
of hanging onto the symbols of "subjects" and "objects" instead of
"patterns of Quality?" I guess the main benefit is to think like everybody
else and so get along without making waves..
> The
> MoQ doesn't "kill off" SOM, it encompasses it, explains it in a way that
> values and respects morality and history and consciousness.
Morality, history, consciousness are all moral patterns of intellectual
meaning. So yes, the MoQ accounts for SOM, but replaces it with better
explanation of the how the world is and works. Remember the platypi?
> There are
> still subjects and objects and the work of Quality is to create subjects
> and objects - it can't create in any other way.
Dynamic Quality creates patterns of value, not subjects and objects.
> To scoff at the creation
> quality has created because it is only a creation is foolish.
Who's scoffing? Not me.
> Quality can
> only exist in creation.
How can Quality be created when it takes Quality to create?
> I am probably misreading that quote though, I know you are not a solipsist.
Right. I'm not a solipsist. Intellectual patterns of language, grammar and
logic have been around long before I arrived on the scene and will be here
long after I'm gone.
If you want to stick to SOM, fine. My preference is MoQ. Probably strokes
my ego to be different that way.
Platt
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