From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Wed Jun 11 2003 - 23:43:24 BST
Matt:
Wasn't it Pirsig himself who said that everything is an analogy?
Ah, here it is:
"Of course it's an analogy. Everything is an analogy. But the dialecticians don't know that." (Ch. 30, ZMM)
Squonk:
Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
You see, some analogies - are better - than others. ;)
Dynamic Quality isn't an analogy. DQ is where the best analogies come from.
Matt:
Of course some analogies are better than others, when have I ever said that they weren't?
But, by saying that DQ isn't an analogy, you hypostatize DQ just as Plato hypostatized the Good, which makes you a dialectician, a Platonic metaphysician of the kind that Pirsig railed against in ZMM. I simply wanted to point this out to anybody who thought that Squonk was trying to evade my charge. Instead of evading it, Squonk took it head on and essentially said, "Yes, I am a metaphysician of the kind that Pirsig dislikes in ZMM."
Squonk said:
OK, how about this? The best analogies are a tension between the static repertoire of our language and
Matt:
I take the blank space at the end of your sentence to purposeful, but I don't follow completely in it. I think that in efforts towards self-perfection, the play between the known and the unknown, literal and metaphor, are excellent, the best. But in efforts toward the public good, I have doubts. I think to get things done for the public good, literal tools sometimes work better than metaphorical ones, meaning metaphor may not always be the best.
Matt
MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
Mail Archives:
Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Wed Jun 11 2003 - 23:43:55 BST