MD myths and symbols

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 22:21:29 BST

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    Who thinks the folllowing two Pirsigisms are contradictory? Who thinks only
    one of them can be correct? Not me. I think that only a misunderstanding of
    one or the other would lead a person to conclude that we are here faced with
    a difficult choice. The trick is to take the LC clarifications as just that.
    Pirsig is not saying anything different in LC and his comments are not
    intended to undo any part of the MOQ as we find it in Lila. The best way to
    discover the correct reading of any isolated quote is to put it within the
    context of everything else he says about the topic and the MOQ in general.

    PIRSIG from chapter 30
    "Philosophers usually present their ideas as sprung from "nature" or
    sometimes from"God", but Phadreus thought neither of these was completely
    accurate. The logical order of things which the philosophers study is
    derived from the "mythos".The mythos is the social culture and the rhetoric
    which the culture must invent before philosophy becomes possible. Most of
    this religious talk is nonsense, of course, but nonsense or not, it is the
    PARENT of our modern scientific talk. This "mythos over logos" thesis agreed
    with the MOQ's assertion that intellectual static patterns of quality are
    built up out of social static quality. Digging back into ancient Greek
    history, to the time when this mythos-to logos transition was taking
    place...."
     
      'For purposes of MOQ precision, let's say that the
    intellectual level is the same as mind. It is the
    collection and manipulation of symbols, created in the
    brain, that stand for patterns of experience.'

     

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