From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 03 2003 - 21:34:45 BST
Hey Johnny,
J
> OK, that was a stereotype, but the existence of the stereotype must mean
> something.
R
While there may or may not be a kernel of truth behind every stereotype, I
think that's a very dangerous line of argument to pursue. In this
particular
case, my own experience doesn't bear out the notion that most gays are
intellectuals. I think you see it that way because you associate
intellectualism with liberal social progressiveness and think that gays must
be liberal and progressive because they desire social tolerance for their
sexual preferences. But I think that's wrong. I think that most gays
aren't really any more socially progressive than most heterosexuals are....
with the exception of their one personal issue (but hey, everyone has some
issues--- does that makes us all intellectuals?).
J
I stand by the main point, which is that intellectualism and
> homosexuality are related.
R
Is there a converse relationship between heterosexuality and
anti-intellectualism?
J
If non-intellectuals are gay, ie, if any person
> becomes gay not by thinking-about-it too much but by copying behavior, it
is
> because the intellectual pattern is starting to take hold as a social
> pattern. (Though there may be hormonal and genetic conditions that may
> contribute to being gay, it is an intellectual construct that says that
> people with those biological patterns can't be straight.)
R
Are you familiar with the writings of Michel Foucault? Here is a webpage
briefly summarizing some of his vast ideas
(http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/history_of_sexuality.htm). I would be
interested in your opinion of his theories.
J
> Right, except I think now it is heterosexuals who are dying in their wars.
R
Which wars would these be? Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq or
Afghanistan is a part of some "homosexual agenda"? Does that mean that Bush
is in on it as well?
J
> Any statute is "unenforcable" if it criminalizes something that is
primarily
> done in private.
R
Murder is primarily committed in private. So is rape. Drug use usually
occurs behind close doors... I could go on all day listing enforceable
statutes that criminalize behavior that occurs primarily in private.
take care
rick
First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do. -
Epictetus
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