From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Thu Jul 03 2003 - 21:48:56 BST
Squonk
Welcome among the sane, now you are making some sense.
(not about racism though)
On 2 Jul. you wrote:
> I wish to state that in my view, Mr. Pirsig is in no sense racist. His
> ideas have been ignored and modified by many people, most notably
> Skutvik. In Skutvik's very personal view of the Metaphysics of
> Quality, the intellectual level is specifically differentiated
> experience and reason. To use his precise words:
> "the intellectual LEVEL emerged with the Greeks and is the S/O divide
> or reason"
> This position is not that of Mr. Pirsig.
Lila page 261 (Bantam Press. Hardcover):
"Phaedrus remembered now that it had bothered him a little that in the
Odyssey, Homer seemed at times to be equating quality with celebrity .
Perhaps in Homer's time, when evolution had not yet transcended the social
level into the intellectual, the two were the same.
I need not write in bold or capital letters for such a great linguist as
yourself
to understand? Homer was Greek and experts believe him to have lived a
thousand years BC and Pirsig says that evolution had NOT YET ...etc
Celebrity - a social value - was regarded as the highest good. Another few
centuries and the transition took place.
sq: If we substitute 'rose above' for 'transcended' there is no problem. My
dictionary defines transcend as 'rise above' or 'superior to.' At a point where
they are the same, no level is above or superior to the other.
This does not conflict with anything i have said.
I am shocked to observe how euphoric you have become. You are a spooky man.
squonk
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