Re: MD types of patterns/types of people

From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 18:17:23 BST

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    Platt,

    >> I disagree that levels that don't refer to types of people but rather to
    >> types of patterns are "abstract as some sort of Platonic forms" or "pies in
    >> the sky." Values are real in my book. They don't exist in some Platonic
    >> realm but rather they comprise our experience.
    >
    > Absolutely. The key words are "our experience," presuming people having
    > it. That's the whole basis of the MOQ.

    I wouldn't limit experience to humans. To me to say that everything
    experiences or everything is aware is another way of saying that everything
    is Quality. What is completely original (as far as I know) about the MOQ is
    that it does not say that everything has value *to us* individually but
    rather that everything *is* value. It's a shame that Pirsig's work sounds
    "pie in the sky" to you, but it is a metaphysics after all. (This makes me
    sad. I really though that we were on the same page with this stuff. I also
    miss the libertarian Platt I thought I knew who wouldn't like the government
    telling him what sexual positions he and his wife could use.)

    Thanks,
    Steve

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