RE: MD Intellectual patterns? huh?

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Tue Jul 15 2003 - 23:24:23 BST

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    >Platt,
    >
    >Platt said:
    >Suggest that you are also pointing to harmony in judging the quality of an
    intellectual pattern although your emphasis is on objective rationality of the
    pattern rather than the more subjective harmony of the pattern. Your emphasis
    is correct in
    >academe. Outside academic discipline, judgments of quality are more likely to
    trend toward "gut" feelings.
    >
    >Matt:
    >Absolutely. When Pirsig says "harmony" I think he's saying the same thing as
    when Rorty says "coherence".
    >
    >However, I think you've missed my emphasis. I'm not sure what "objective
    rationality" is supposed to mean. After all, I take "objective" to mean
    "intersubjective". But, my emphasis was not on the inner workings of any
    particular community in
    >finding coherence or harmony, but in the individual person, as when I said,
    "coherence with your other intellectual patterns," emphasis on "your". And I
    believe I was referring to "gut" feelings when I said, "An initial feeling of
    low Quality is
    >that first impulse of incoherence, and vice versa for high Quality."
    >
    >Otherwise, aside from your insistence on saying "the feeling, the experience
    of beauty is 'Things the Way They Really Are,'" its interesting to see that we
    agree on a few things. I just knew we would.
    >
    >Matt
    >

    I agree, always need to add a "to me" or the
    Einstein thing of "depending on where you are
    standing" lol to those kind of statements, it gives some leeway for the
    beauty of things the way they could be.
    Maybe a experiencing beauty and being pulled
    by beauty? Or would anyone care to suggest a statement/quote/thoughts on
    the relationship/role of imagination with beauty?

    erin

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