Re: MD What does Pi.... mean by *static intellectual patterns*?

From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed Jul 30 2003 - 17:56:06 BST

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    On 28 July 1:18 AM Bo Writes:

    Hi Bo Scott, Khoo, Brian and all,

    > JOE said:
    > > 40 years ago I studied scholastic philosophy, and the theory that we
    > > know things, and create words by abstraction. In ZAMM Pirsig
    > >destroys this basis for knowledge by pointing out that Quality is not
    > >subjective.

    Bo:
    This time I had no problem understanding you Joe, and what great
    insights did my understanding reveal? (No sarcasm) For the first time
    another person who points to the Quality as not another idealist
    (subjective) approach! So many thinks THAT to be Pirsig's message.

    Joe:
    > > The composition of the static pattern is complicated. For the
    > >apprehension of Dynamic Quality I have a brain 'intuitive intellect'.

    Bo:
    As said many times by this person: Intellect is now the top level and
    where the action is. So "...brain intuitive intellect" OK!

    joe: Bo, you bowl me over. After I read you accepting "'intuitive
    intellect' is an oxymoron", I had no more words. Everything was quiet in a
    sad way. And then I read you saying "...brain intuitive intellect", OK I
    become manic! I no longer worry about "sentients as predators, I am right
    you are wrong" syndrome. From what you say about what I said, I would agree
    that we are trying to come to grips with a new way of knowing things.

    Bo:
    My take is that SENSATION is the biological 'expression' (I call)
    EMOTION the Social and REASON intellect's. Regarding Purpose it is another
    of those "unassimilated" phenomena, much related to
    Meaning. Another form of Quality.

    joe: Words like SENSATION, EMOTION, REASON (I would use COMPREHENSION) are
    music to my ears. I attach purpose to SENSATION. "'unassimilated'
    phenomena, much related to Meaning", seems to me to be a more precise way of
    saying 'undefined'.

    For the most part I think we agree that we have to find a different way to
    explain how we know things? An instinctive sense of reality, intuition,
    with DNA generated awareness is my choice.

    Thank You!

    Joe

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