Re: MD Forked tongue

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2003 - 22:07:59 BST

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    Dear Platt,

    You wrote 03 Sep 2003 11:22:31 -0400:
    'I agree to DQ being the "life force". I don't see how we can help not
    labelling such beliefs "anthropomorphic" because all beliefs, by definition,
    are human-centered.'

    I didn't state '"DQ = life force' should not be (labelled as) an
    anthropomorphic belief', but 'the concept "life force" should not be
    understood as anthropomorphic'.
    Self-consciousness, knowing one's self, implies the possibility to
    deny/avoid/negate one's self and its human forms. Knowing what's human, we
    can create concepts and statements that aren't.

    I wrote:
    'I agree for evolution at the 4th level up till the rational level [that
    expansion of consciousness is essential], but I think humanity can and does
    go beyond.'

    You asked:
    'How so?'

    Expansion of consciousness has biological and social limits (we need sleep,
    we can't consciously process all sensory stimuli, the expansion of
    consciousness in certain directions is socially unacceptable etc.).
    Evolution at the 4th level beyond its sublevel where (ever better)
    ego-organization guides progress, has no such limits any more (or the 4th
    level would not be discrete, but fully describable in terms of biological
    and social processes).

    You wrote:
    'Purpose of life, it's creation, maintenance, and expansion.'

    I repeat my question: Whose purpose? I don't know an answer. If there is no
    answer, it is not an anthropomorphic 'purpose', I'd say. And then, yes, it
    is acceptable for me as an alternative explanation for evolution, a better
    one than scientific oopsism.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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