From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Sun Sep 21 2003 - 23:01:39 BST
David,
David said:
I want what we can't talk about easily to be at the forefront of our thoughts where as the pragmatist wants to forget about it.
Matt:
I think that forgets about the poetic half of Rorty's pragmatism. Poets are those who push our language forward so that we can talk more and more easily about more and more different things. Poets, on Rorty's view, create more and more things to talk about.
Uh, I was going to say a lot more about this and some other things about DMB's reading of Rorty and philosophy and society, but I just wanted to put up the white flag, send in my resignation, announce my defeat: DMB has done it. He has won. With the help of other beligerents, he has finally worn me out. Through one of the must extensive attrition campaigns I have ever seen mounted at this forum, I have lost all that kept me going. I still think DMB is wrong about me and Rorty (and Pirsig), however, now that he has posted some potentially good questions, I have lost the will to even respond. It takes energy to take a beating like the one I've received and to continue to write some (what I, and perhaps alone, consider to be) good philosophy. I just don't have the time and energy to do it. I don't have the energy now to muster up and flesh out the good and relevant arguments I see in that I should use against the attacks.
I don't have the energy, and I don't see the point. I've never been so naive to think that people like Platt and DMB would ever really change there stance towards Rorty. People don't have chips on their shoulders like the ones they have and change. That's fine, my polemics were mainly aimed at trying to convince others not to believe them. But that's over now. I'm just going to drop almost everything that I should respond to. One more post on "strong misreadings" and that's it. I'll leave them alone and hopefully they'll leave me alone. (All that means is that I refuse to enter a dialogue with them: when I comment on them, and they reply, I won't reply back and when they comment on me, I won't reply back. All this is contingent on them having stupid comments, though.) I can hear all the catcalls now, but ya' know what? It just doesn't matter. This last month has been one of the most disappointing months I have ever had on the MD. It has been, almost resoundingly
so, an utter waste of time for me. I don't think I've ever wanted to say that before, but I do it now. I have things I want to do with Pirsig, I don't have time to apologize myself enough room to do it. Like I told people before, there's an infinite amount of room here. You shouldn't need to clear yourself some space.
Matt
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