From: Barritt (mbarritt@nc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Oct 04 2003 - 15:11:30 BST
What are we searching for?
Barritt
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From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: MD Krishnamurti
Hello Mark,
Thanks for that. Pirsig - Krishnamurti. I didn't know. That's just great! I'll get those books you mentioned as soon as I finish Howard Bloom's "Global Brain" (2000) in which he points to an "interspecies global mind" Don't miss the last paragraph in that book. For a long time I've been sympathetic to Jung and Campbell's collective unconscious. Then I got to thinking there must be a collective conscious. Then along comes Bloom with his account of group selection in the dynamics of biological and social evolution. Lots of MOQ tie-ins.
I've been retired for two years from the schools. I decided to be self-referred for a change and I went about rereading my graduate texts on psychotherapy and to educate myself on the history of western philosophy. I had this nagging itch. Is there really such a reality as an object? If the universe is alive, aware, and responsive (as I believe it is) - what's an object? I started with ZAMM and Lila. The Greeks came next. And, of course, I was off to the races.
MOQ.org led me to Ken Wilber. I read his "No Boundary" which supported my earlier readings on the philosophy and healing system of the Hawaiian shamans (kahunas) - the discipline of Huna. I noticed Wilber borrowed many of his ideas from Krishnamurti. (he says so in the back of his book). Someone on the MOQ was into Howard Bloom and then I heard him speak on the radio one night. Notice that? The interconnectivity. Of course you do, you're an MOQ'er.
My approach to education in the schools? I follow William James' advice. Education can be approached through the concept of relatedness. James - another guy Pirsig likes. He says so in Lila. Hmmm. Anyway, I show kids and adults how everything is connected. Remember in ZAMM how Phaedrus asked students to write a paper simply by examining a penny? No problem from an interconnectivity approach.
Within the next year I'm moving back to the Philippines. I used to train and evaluate teachers at international schools there back in the 80's. I feel at home there. Finish writing my book, perhaps do a little consulting work in education and pursue a doctorate. Life is good. Lots of quality these days. May your every step be blessed.
Jim
Hello Jim,
Thanks for your response. You sound to me like an example of the tutors i had the good fortune to experience once or twice in my education; the teacher who takes time to wander off in all directions only to tie it up by the end in a relevant and thought provoking unity.
This caught my eye: 'Is there really such a reality as an object? If the universe is alive, aware, and responsive (as I believe it is) - what's an object?'
It seems there are differentiation's but no objects - objects may be seen as artistic creations of a differentiating process; a process which preselects on aesthetic and harmonic grounds. In this scheme, it is pathological to insist upon severe divisions, as that assertion is destructive and the source of disunity and pain.
Sadly, the Western view appears to be dominated by inherent cultural assertions of this nature?
But there are many Western thinkers who do not go down this path and this indicates to me that we can be positive in our continuing enquiry into Quality. The MoQ certainly helps me on a day to day level, and that is where it counts? And i sort of have the feeling it is helping you also?
I look forward to reading your book...
All the best,
Mark
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