From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Thu Oct 30 2003 - 18:29:10 GMT
Wim,
Wim said:
Shouldn't the idea that something can be a 'lie' (i.e. be inconsistent with objective reality) be dropped in a MoQ-based culture?
Platt said:
Definitely not. A culture, MOQ-based or otherwise, will fall apart if truth standards are up for grabs. Imagine what life it would like if you couldn't trust you doctor, your electrician, or your plumber.
Matt:
I think Wim has pointed out an interesting observation. The idea of a "lie" as being inconsistent with objective reality should be dropped. That's what is dropped in a culture where truth is not an object of inquiry that you can get wrong. What's funny, is that Platt's answer is the same thing I would say, "a culture ... will fall arpart if truth standards are up for grabs". In a pragmatist culture, be it MoQian or otherwise, truth standards aren't all up for grabs, they are just recognized as having the ability to change, like the change between Ptolemy and Galileo. Galileo wasn't more true, or closer to Truth, he had different standards, standards that we consider better. I see Platt as trying to dress up the practical, everyday stuff that pragmatists would agree to, in the rhetoric of objectivism. I think Wim is right to poke fun at this.
Matt
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