Re: MD quality is ...?

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Nov 08 2003 - 07:28:17 GMT

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    HI Nathan

    you wrote:
    >Let me take you to one part where you say, "We expect apples to fall to
    >the
    >earth because we have seen apples falling to the earth, and this is why
    >apples fall to the earth."
    >
    >What about the concept of gravity? Where does that fit in with your
    >thoughts? Do apples fall because we have seen them fall before and so
    >expect
    >them to fall now, and then they do, or it is that objects attract eachother
    >with a gravitational force and this is the root cause of apples
    >accelerating
    >to the earth.
    >In other words, if humans and all other beings that have consciousness were
    >to disappear, would apples stop falling?

    OK, more good questions, thanks. Gravity is how we have materially
    explained, named and measured the expectation of apples falling, to the
    limited extent that we have. It doesn't exist as anything other than a
    moral pattern of value, just like matter doesn't exist as anything other
    than moral pattern of value. We will probably someday find some sort of
    particle or field that we say explains gravity and matter, but only because,
    when, and in such a way as expectation expects it, which means in the way
    that fits into morality as it must. Gravity is a pattern of value in the
    MoQ, just like a rock or a tree. is. Gravity exists and the world exists
    because they aer high quality patterns.

    yeah, there'd be no apples without there also being us, i'd say.

    have you looked into John Wheeler's "participatory universe" and "it from
    bit" theory?

    cheers
    johnny

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