Re: MD what is life?

From: Nathan Pila (pila@sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun Nov 16 2003 - 23:03:33 GMT

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    David,

    Using what you wrote, would you say that the earth is alive as a organism?
    And what about a liver cell? Is it alive?

    Regards, Nathan

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David MOREY" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:37 AM
    Subject: Re: MD what is life?

    > Hi
    >
    > Seems easy to me, life fills all the levels of complexity
    > after those that create the most determinate level of matter.
    > Life exhibits a level of free activity above that which is only
    > concerned with the contingent interaction of elements.
    > Life makes a use of its environment. There is also a use
    > from energy to particles to atoms to molecules but we
    > do not call this life because the movement is away from free
    > movement towards heavy, stationary, gravity loving, and determined
    > elements, the most static patterns that exist.
    >
    > regards
    > David M
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Magnus Berg" <McMagnus@home.se>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:18 AM
    > Subject: re: MD what is life?
    >
    >
    > > Hi Nathan
    > >
    > > I mostly lurk nowadays but if you are interested in my take on life,
    feel
    > free to read "A classicist's road to the Metaphysics of Quality" in the
    MoQ
    > forum:
    > >
    > > http://www.moq.org/forum/magnus/magnus.html
    > >
    > > Magnus
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Nathan Pila" <pila@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    > > __________
    > > >Hi there Steve,
    > > >
    > > >Well, I would assert that the study of "life" is worthwhile even if it
    is
    > an
    > > >illusion. Right now, a definition that is accepted by everyone has yet
    to
    > be
    > > >formulated. How can one tell if some material is "alive". What
    properties
    > > >would such material exhibit?
    > > >
    > > >How would you, (Steve)/ (or anyone else) /define 'life'? I am aware
    that
    > I
    > > >am not being fair here in that this question is easy to state and
    > terribly
    > > >difficult to answer. But if you have the time, I would be interested in
    > some
    > > >of the properties that you think 'life' has. I have some views on the
    > > >subject based on some stuff I've read. But I would like to hear what
    you
    > > >write first.
    > > >
    > > >Regards, Nathan
    > >
    > >
    > >
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