From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Nov 19 2003 - 20:05:50 GMT
Matt,
> Pirsig said:
> "In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight
> hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the
> empirical tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting
> point of reality, but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of
> value. Values are phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world."
>
> Platt said:
> Could anything be clearer?
>
> Matt:
> You're a fan of logic, right Platt. So riddle me this: if Quality is
> Reality, i.e. if value is EVERYTHING, how can we have an _extra_ sense
> for value, if all of our senses are already senses for value?
I'm indeed a fan a logic, but no expert. But even a non-expert can spot
a hidden premise when it's as obvious as the one in your question,
namely, that if everything is value everything must be equally
valuable. As Paul indicated in his latest response to your explanatory
efforts, the physical sense of value makes it possible to discriminate
between high or low value. As Paul said, "we are born liking and
disliking." Your sense of sound hears a pattern of waves; your sense of
value determines if the pattern is irritating or pleasant, e.g. the
difference between a musical composition created by Snoop Doggy Dog or
Mozart.
You like to talk about continuums. Think of value as a continuum from
low to high and your sense of value as your guide to where to place the
data of your other senses on that continuum.
Platt
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