Re: MD Language in the MOQ

From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Fri Nov 28 2003 - 11:30:58 GMT

  • Next message: Paul Turner: "RE: MD Language in the MOQ"

    In a message dated 11/27/03 1:26:21 PM GMT Standard Time,
    paulj.turner@ntlworld.com writes:

    > Paul:
    > This was my original position and I still think it's a good one. The
    > alternative I'm exploring is that the emergence of the intellectual
    > level was more sudden and with historical origins. I think both
    > explanations are reasonable and evidence can be found to support either
    > one. It's all speculation in the end; the most we can expect is to find
    > the one we like best, as with anything.
    >

    Hi Paul,
    May i throw in something that occurred to me some time ago, but now may have
    found a home?

    I think we can have it both ways if we think in terms of phase transition:
    Water and ice are different states of H2O at 0'C Standard temp and pressure.
    That fine line of Dynamic push away from the static repertoire and towards a
    condensing of new coherence can look like the same thing but in two different
    states at the 'sweet spot' of new creativity.

    This is why i was going on about the Welsh language and by inference Welsh
    culture as a whole; the capacity for what we in the West accept as a standard
    for intellectual creativity was there in the Welsh before the delayed phase
    transition came along and suddenly, POW - they are just as clever, maybe even more
    clever, than anyone else.
    See what i am getting at?

    ZMM indicates that the phase transition in Ancient Greece went a bit off
    kilter - it could have gone a number of ways, but ended up being rather too dense
    in geometrical aesthetic perhaps? It did not have to be that way, but
    geometric figure does have that certain beauty; a beauty suggesting eternal Truth. No
    wonder the geometric method was used so often by Western philosophers to prove
    the existence of God?

    As Jan Gullberg (1997). Mathematics: from the Birth of Numbers. W.W. Norton.
    feels, “Genuine mathematics, then, its methods and its concepts, by contrast
    with soulless calculations, constitutes one of the finest expressions of the
    Human spirit…”

    That expression is a creative response to DQ, but it is not the be all and
    end all of Human Intelligence? (I certainly hope not, because i am lousy at
    maths!)
    All the best,
    Mark.

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