From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Sat Dec 20 2003 - 13:59:13 GMT
Dear Khoo,
According to you (17 Dec 2003 20:56:39 +0800) and Pirsig ('Lila' chapter 32)
Buddhism seems to be an intellectual pattern of value that motivates one to
dismantle all intellectual patterns of value (all patterns constituting
'self'). Including itself, I wonder? Does enlightenment imply dismantling
even the 4 truths, 8-fold path and 5/10/227 precepts? I guess so.
You also wrote:
'migration towards Dynamic Quality involves dissolving the static patterns
of value'.
That implies: all static patterns of value, not only the intellectual
ones... It is a logical consequence of that Buddhist train of thought, but
unacceptable to me. It implies that static quality is all bad and Dynamic
Quality all good and that the latter can exist without the former.
For me sq and DQ are both necessary. 'Migration towards Dynamic Quality'
does NOT involve dissolving of static patterns of value but (in line with
what Pirsig wrote in chapter 11 of 'Lila', see my posting of 19 Dec 2003
21:16:38 +0100) cumulation of more static patterns of value with both more
stability (more static quality) and increasing versatility ('directed toward
Dynamic Quality' in Pirsig's words).
Beyond a certain level of human development the sense of an individual
'self' is 'a static pattern [that] becomes
so powerful [that] it prohibits any Dynamic moves forward' (Pirsig's words
from chapter 11). My solution would NOT be to dismantle all patterns that
constitute that individual 'self', but to create intellectual patterns of
value that constitute a more collective 'self': identification with humanity
and 'creation' as a whole.
Luckily Buddhism apparently also contains that solution according to what
you wrote:
'bodhisattvas ... who hold off ultimate buddhahood out of compassion until
the rest of humanity is saved'.
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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