Re: MD Battle of Values

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec 21 2003 - 21:52:10 GMT

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    Hi David M,

    I won't comment on a lot of what you say since IMO it has little bearing
    on the MOQ but rather expresses your personal political and historical
    views. I like to see this site maintain a relevancy to the MOQ as there
    are plenty of other sites where one can discuss geo-politics, the merits
    of socialism, whether economic equality is to be desired, etc. You did
    make one reference to Lila, however, but I failed to find the passage you
    refer to.

    > As you know early on in Lila,
    > Pirsig expresses concern about
    > entering into a part of the country
    > where the inequality is high.

    As for what you consider to be a quality kind of life you appear to
    suggest Pirsig's drifting around on bikes and boats, thinking and hanging
    out with Indians is the kind of life we all should aspire to. But I think
    Pirsig would be the last to suggest such a thing. Nowhere do I find in his
    writings any suggestions as to how you and I ought to set our goals or
    live our lives other than to encourage all to follow their respective
    blisses. If you know where Pirsig says otherwise, please cite where.

    > Does Pirsig pursue financial gains in his books
    > as his number one value? Or does he drift around on a
    > motorbike, thinking, and hanging out with Indians?

    > Of course, capitalism looks
    > good from the US and also Europe. But ever been abroad to take a look
    > Platt?

    I've been to the Czech Republic, Germany and Italy several times and found
    the major cities I visited "dull places" compared to American cities, just
    as Pirsig describes them. I also found Europeans much more security driven
    than risk takers, possessing an attitude I describe as "hunkering down." I
    do not mean to disparage Europeans in any way. Were I European and the
    inheritor of a history of almost constant warfare, I know my attitude
    would be the same as theirs. Of course, these generalizations are subject
    to numerous exceptions. As for other parts of the world, I hear Hong Kong,
    the purest capitalist city in the world, is a marvelous place.

    Regards,
    Platt

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