From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Sat Jan 17 2004 - 17:39:35 GMT
Bo
Bo said:
Anyway, you agreed that the Greek experience=the emergence of the
intellectual level, and as it also is the emergence of SOM ...you affirm
the SOLAQI.
Paul:
Your logic is flawed, this is a genetic fallacy. An example of which is:
Life began with viruses
Human beings are a form of life
Therefore, human beings are viruses
In your case, your argument goes like this:
Western intellectual patterns began with SOM
X is a western intellectual pattern
Therefore, X is SOM
Your problem, for which your fifth level is his solution, starts where X
is the MOQ.
While I am pointing out flaws in your logic, here are a couple more.
Your SOLAQI argument commits a formal fallacy - that of affirming the
consequent, an example of this fallacy is:
A horse has two eyes, a nose and hair
You have two eyes, a nose and hair
Therefore you are a horse
In your case, your argument goes like this:
If you use S/O logic you are acting intellectually
You are acting intellectually
Therefore you are using S/O logic
Or, it can be shown to be a "some/all ambiguity," an example is this:
Englishmen like drinking tea
You are an Englishman
Therefore you like drinking tea
In your case, your argument goes like this:
Intellectual patterns are based on SOM
The MOQ is an intellectual pattern
Therefore the MOQ is based on SOM
This non sequitur forces you to deny that the MOQ is an intellectual
pattern. However, with the simple addition of "some" to the premise, the
implied "all" is removed and the problem is avoided:
Some intellectual patterns are based on SOM
The MOQ is an intellectual pattern
The MOQ is not based on SOM
Or we can use good old petitio principii, begging-the-question:
The conclusion of your argument - SOM=Intellect - is often your premise,
this is evident whenever we see this - Intellect (SOM) - when you are
debating the definition of intellect.
Just thought I'd bring these to your attention.
Regards
Paul
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