From: skutvik@online.no
Date: Wed Jan 21 2004 - 07:08:45 GMT
Hi DMB and interested parties.
18 Jan. you started by citing Pirsig:
> "That's what this whole century's been about, this struggle between
> intellectual and social patterns. That's the theme song of the 20th
> century. Is society going to dominate intellect or is intellect going
> to dominate society? And if society wins, what's going to be left of
> intellect? And if intellect wins, what's going to be left of society?
> That was the thing that this evolutionary morality brought out clearer
> than anything else." CH 13
I won't go into the conclusions you draw from this - they are rock
solid - but only comment on the "...if society wins, what's going to
be left of intellect?" If intellect's value is "manipulation of
symbols" does that mean that this will be prohibited and police
will come to your door to check that you don't "manipulate
symbols"?
The "..what is going to be left of society" part is interesting too,
What Pirsig means is that intellect's (individual rights) domination
would increase until the community is a mess. This I believe
proved true in New York, but when things reached a certain stage
of decline, "intellect" came to its senses and a tough police chief
was put in office who struck down on the street "freedoms". So
social value is more basic and can't be "lost".
IMOIMOIMO
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