From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Tue Jan 27 2004 - 12:08:16 GMT
Hello Joe
Joe said:
If there is a dividing line tetween the moral orders, then, it would
seem that 'more or less' applies. I don't suddenly jump the line
between moral orders, rather the one grows out of the other. The
fuzziness of the line of evolution cannot be put under a microscope!
Paul:
Although a microscope can distinguish precisely between
inorganic/biological patterns and social/intellectual patterns. That
said...
Joe said:
Does seeing that line define the intellectual order?
Paul:
I think it does. Ponder this passage from ZMM:
"What is essential to understand at this point is that until now there
was no such thing as mind and matter, subject and object, form and
substance. Those divisions are just dialectical inventions that came
later. The modern mind sometimes tends to balk at the thought of these
dichotomies being inventions and says, "Well, the divisions were there
for the Greeks to discover," and you have to say, "Where were they?
Point to them!" And the modern mind gets a little confused and wonders
what this is all about anyway, and still believes the divisions were
there."
Were the static levels there for Pirsig to discover? I think he would
say that, after first drawing a line under what can be categorised to
keep his unconditioned Quality free from definition, the static
evolutionary levels are the *best* way to categorise experience. That
is, they bring all elements of understanding together to fit experience
in the most harmonious way.
Regards
Paul
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