From: Matthew Poot (mattpoot@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 02 2004 - 22:26:48 GMT
Hello,
DM: Somehow we are dividing
things so that we have to work 50 hours to keep up with our addictive
low quality life styles.
Tell me about it.
All work, and no play, make ______ a dull ___.
I don't really think that when we work 50, 60, 70 hours a week, how much
time is there for self-development? Nevertheless trying to improve things
around you.
When you work this much, your ambition is systematically destroyed,
sometimes until a point of no recovery.
Although 5 hours a week seems a bit low, even 5 hours a day would be cake!
Especially if it was work you enjoyed!
Something like Platos doing what you are best doing.
Poot
----- Original Message -----
From: David MOREY <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: MD Quality and In-e-quality
> Hi
>
> My hope is that we can improve our
> shallow concept of individualism and get
> back to something like the scope and ambition
> of renaissance man. I would suggest we can replace
> money and exchange by giving away the products of
> our labour and giving up ownership. Just imagine how
> much less we would then need and have to do much less tedious
> work. Imagine no copyright, so that people only produced
> art, music.etc for love and not money. Sure there is basic
> work for basic needs, let's say 5 hours a week these days at most,
> then work should be a matter of free choice. Somehow we are dividing
> things so that we have to work 50 hours to keep up with our addictive
> low quality life styles.
>
> regards
> DM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Poot" <mattpoot@hotmail.com>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: MD Quality and In-e-quality
>
>
> > Hello Dm,
> >
> > You say we have to get rid of money. In a 'project' I worked on for my
> > philosophy course, I chose the topic "The Ideal State" and discussed
> > political, philosophical, economical, and theological ideas surrounding
> > that.
> >
> > One such idea was to get rid of money. But , I ran into a few problems.
> >
> > I think that, in the end, the trade/barter system will be the main
> solution.
> > Yet, even still there are problems with that. How can you prevent
people
> > from being swindled? How can you promote fair trade?
> >
> > The problem with money, mainly, is that it becomes the determining
factor
> > for almost everything in life today, as opposed to Quality being the
> > determiner (word?)
> >
> > One of the interesting jobs that I 'do' right now, part-time, is working
> in
> > a factory that produces large 'chocolate' eggs for easter, in an
assembly
> > line fashion (thank you Mr. Ford~!). This is _the_ most mind numbing
> labour
> > I have ever partaken in, and it helps me achieve a more well rounded
view
> of
> > the current make up of our industrial society. Each egg gets a
"surprise"
> > in it. Most of the time, it is just 2 shitty erasers. With that comes
> the
> > egg. How much is paid for something that costs about.....25 cents to
> make
> > (including equipment, etc)?? its about 10 dollars in the end. and the
> > profit ratio goes up as you make larger eggs....
> >
> > Mass , IMO, is one of the key promoters and sustainers of 'money' as we
> > know it. Mass Production, Mass Media, Mass-murder.....the list goes on.
> In
> > my job working in the largest kitchen in Canada, (Royal York Hotel),
> > everything is produced in quantity (excluding fine dining).
> >
> > I think , therefor, that we can all agree to : Quantity < Quality
> >
> >
> > Well, there has to be a change in attitudes on everyones part. A
> different
> > SoM, you could say.
> >
> >
> > Time is short
> >
> > Poot
> >
> >
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