From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Mar 25 2004 - 17:03:40 GMT
Hi Mark
Yes I agree, but feel that the inorganic could be
shown to consist of at least 3 levels. Young's suggests
7 levels from photons to individuated man, with each level
sub-divided into 7 sub levels. In each 7 the first 3 levels move
towards more static expression wioth level 4 being a turn to the next
3 levels that show increasingly dynamic expression.
DM
----- Original Message -----
From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: MD SQ-SQ coherence and the Biosphere.
Hi All
Anyone interested in how there has been a dynamic
evolution at the inorganic level should try and get hold
of a copy of Arthur M Young's Reflexive Universe.
I consider the single inorganic level the biggest weakness
in Pirsig, if DQ has not been an aspect of existence since t=0
then how can we associate it with the mystical One?
regards
David M
Hi David,
"Phaedrus thought this was why no one before had ever seemed to have come up with the idea that the world is primarily value. The word is too vague. The 'value' that holds a glass of water together and the 'value' that holds a nation together are obviously not the same thing. Therefore to say that the world is nothing but value is just confusing, not clarifying.
Now this vagueness is removed by sorting out values according to levels of evolution. The value that holds a glass of water together is an inorganic pattern of value. The value that holds a nation together is a social pattern of value. They are completely different from each other because they are at different evolutionary levels. And they are completely different from biological patterns that can cause the most sceptical of intellectuals to leap from a hot stove. These patterns have nothing in common except that historic evolutionary process that created all of them. But that process is a process of value evolution. Therefore the name 'static patterns of value' applies to all. (Lila. page 157)
So what Phaedrus was saying was that not just life, but everything, is an ethical activity. It is nothing else. When inorganic patterns of reality created life, the Metaphysics of Quality postulates that they've done so because it's 'better' and that this definition of 'betterness' - this beginning response to Dynamic Quality - is an elementary unit of ethics upon which all right and wrong can be based. (Lila page 161)
What was emerging was that the static patterns that hold one level of organisation together are often the same patterns that another level of organisation must fight to maintain its own existence. Morality is not a simple set of rules. It's a very complex struggle of conflicting patterns of values. This conflict is the residue of evolution. As new patterns evolve they come into conflict with old ones. Each stage of evolution creates in its wake a wash of problems. (Lila 167)
I feel there is enough evidence here to show that DQ has, and continues to be motivating evolution at all levels simultaneously.
The Inorganic level is still evolving, and is currently at a stage in its evolution where Organic life has the chance to get a grip. When the Universe hits heat death, or something of that nature, the conditions for Organic life may be severely limited?
But right now, there is a large window or 'sweet spot' where everything is just right?
All the best,
Mark.
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